Hearings on the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1937

FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT OF 1937

Joint Hearings before the

Committee on Education and Labor, United States Senate

and the

Committee on Labor, House of Representatives

Seventy-Fifth Congress

First Session

on

S. 2475 and H.R. 7200

Bills to provide for the establishment of Fair Labor Standards in Employments in and affecting interstate commerce and for other purposes

Part 1

June 2 to June 5, 1937

Printed for the use of the Committee on Education and Labor, United States Senate, and the Committee on Labor, House of Representatives

Printed for the use of the Committee on

Education and Labor

United States Senate, and the

Committee on Labor, House of Representatives

UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASINGTON: 1937

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COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR

UNITED STATES SENATE

HUGO L. BLACK, Alabama, Chairman

ROYAL S. COPELAND, New York

DAVID I. WALSH, Massachusetts

ELBERT D. THOMAS, Utah

JAMES E. MURRAY, Montana

VIC DONAHEY, Ohio

RUSH D. HOLT, West Virginia

CLAUDE PEPPER, Florida

ALLEN I. ELLENDER, Louisiana

JOSH LEE, Oklahoma

WILLIAM E. BORAH, Idaho

ROBERT M. LA FOLLETTE, JR., Wisconsin

JAMES J. DAVIS, Pennsylvania

KENNETH E. HAIGLER, Clerk

COMMITTEE ON LABOR

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

WILLIAM P. CONNERY, JR., Chairman, Massachusetts

MARY T. NORTON, New Jersey

ROBERT RAMSPECK, Georgia

GLENN GRISWOLD, Indiana

KENT E. KELLER, Illinois

MATTHEW A. DUNN, Pennsylvania

REUBEN T. WOOD, Missouri

JENNINGS RANDOLPH, West Virginia

JOHN LESINSKI, Michigan

JAMES H. GILDEA, Pennsylvania

EDWARD W. CURLEY, New York

ALBERT THOMAS, Texas

JOSEPH A. DIXON, Ohio

WILLIAM J. FITZGERALD, Connecticut

WILLIAM F. ALLEN, Delaware

GEORGE S. SCHNEIDER, Wisconsin

SANTIAGO IGLESIAS, Puerto Rico

RICHARD J. WELCH, California

FRED A. HARTLEY, JR., New Jersey

W. P. LAMBERTSON, Kansas

CLYDE H. SMITIH, Maine

ARTHUR B. JENKS, New Hampshire

MARY B. CRONIN, Cler.:

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CONTENTS

Statement of

Clark, John D.-------------------------------------------------151

Green, William ----------------------------------------------- 211

Hanway, Paul S ----------------------------------------------- 146

Henderson, Leon ---------------------------------------------- 155

Jackson, Robert -------------------------------------------------1

Johnson, Robert ------------------------------------------------91

Kuldell, R. C -------------------------------------------------243

Paine, John G ------------------------------------------------ 126

Perkins, Hon. Frances ---------------------------------------- 173

Vincent, Merle D --------------------------------------------- 262

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FAIR LAIBOR STANDARDS ACT OF 1937

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 2, 1937

UNITED STATES SENATE,

JOINT COMMITTEE OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR, AND HOUSE COMMITTEE ON LABOR,

Washington, D. C.

The joint committee met, pursuant to call, at 10 a. m., in the caucus room, Senate Office Building, Senator Hugo L. Black presiding.

Present: Senators: Hugo L. Black (chairman), David I. Walsh, Elbert D. Thomas, James E. Murray, Rush D. Holt, Claude Pepper, Allen J. Ellender, Josh Lee, William E. Borah, Robert M. La Follette, Jr., and James J. Davis.

Representatives: William P. Connery, Jr. (chairman), Robert Ramspeck, Glenn Griswold, Kent E. Keller, Matthew Dunn, Reuben T. Wood, James H. Gildea, Edward W. Curley, Albert Thomas, Joseph A. Dixon, William J. Fitzgerald, William F. Allen, George J. Schneider, Santiago Iglesias, Richard J. Welch, Fred A. Hartley, Jr., William P. Lambertson, Clyde H. Smith, and Arthur B. Jenks.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. This is a joint hearing of the Committee on Labor of the House and Committee on Education and Labor of the Senate, on H. R. 7200 and S. 2475.

The CHAIRMAN. The first witness who will appear today is Mr. Robert H. Jackson. If it is satisfactory to the committee, Mr. Jackson has prepared statement which he suggests he can give to the committee and after that he suggests that he can go through the bill section by section for such questions as any members of the committee would want to ask him on the legal phases of the measure. If that is satisfactory to the committee I suggest that we follow that course.

All right, proceed, Mr. Jackson.

[Statement of Robert H. Jackson, Department of Justice]